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AxiomOfChoice

It is not like you took anything from someone you just picked up something on the floor. Of course the casino would have kept it. We just had a post about how the hotel does not let there customers know there is a resort fee and to new LV visitors that is a shock to them if they dont do there homework. Many people have won a respectable amount at the slot machines, but lost it all again before they left the casino. To avoid having that happen to you, make a plan for how you’ll handle your winnings. Some people choose to bank all of the money they win. Others will set a win limit, like double their bankroll, and stop playing when they reach it. You might think that the answer to this question would be unambiguous, but in fact it's something of a gray area, since it isn't actually covered by law. Although all chips and tokens are officially the property of the casino that issued them and thus in theory should be returned if found, in practice it seems that if someone has exchanged cash for a chip, then lost that chip, the application of that rule becomes. Every state has laws requiring the return of money or property if it is possible to identify the owner. As a result, if you find a wallet full of cash and an ID, you cannot legally pocket the cash because the owner is recognizable. Every table, every slot machine, the outside of the bathroom, the ingress and egress into and out of the casino, and virtually every public area in the casino is being filmed. To put it succinctly, the casino is going to find the true owner. Law Office of Kevin Mark Wray 200 West Front Street Media, PA 19063 (610) 566-1006 (610) 566-1002 (fax).

I will confess that I did not listen to the interview but here is how it works in NV.
If you find money on the floor you have to turn it in. The money belongs to the patron and failing that, the money gets paid over to the NGC and a portion gets kept by the property. A grace period is allowed for the original owner to be found or to come forward. I believe it is 30 or 60 days but I'm not sure. If you pick up money from the ground and walk away with it, someone makes a claim to that money and Surveillance finds you, then you are guilty of a crime.
At a casino I used to work at in Vegas a man had dropped a $100 bill. The bill came to rest on the floor, about 6 feet away from his position and about 15 feet in front of the Security Desk on the property. A floor supervisor walked past the bill, picked it up and continued walking. The man made a claim with security that he thought he had dropped a bill. Surveillance reviewed the footage and found the floor person picking up the money. She was confronted and immediately fired. She was also convicted of a crime. Her excuse was that she was merely holding the money until her next break where she would have returned the money to Security. The rules, especially for employees are very clear. If you find money on the floor or anywhere else you have to IMMEDIATELY turn the money in to Security. What made this worse was that she was literally 15 feet away from the podium....
Abandoned credits in a slot machine is slightly more complicated. When can abandoned money be 'reasonably' believed to be 'abandoned'? If a person goes to the bathroom, leaves $100 in a slot and moves more than 1 bank away (which is the VERY vague guideline), does that mean the person abandoned the money? No, it does not but the laws are not very clear where this is concerned. It is completely opent o interpretation, so much so that 6 employees in the Surveillance room got into a heated debate for 3 hours with 4 different points of view...Shows you how much we actually have to do right :)

That is not what Bob N. says. Again:

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Here's the law: Abandoned property on private property does not becomes the property of the owner of the private property, but the property of the finder

Tomspur

..and again, please define 'abandoned' in such a way that it is pratcially implementable on a daily basis inside of a casino.
Perhaps I should have made my point more clear. There is a difference between abandoned money and found money. As far as the NGC is concerned, any money found has to be returned to the house, which in turn will be kept for a period of time, thereafter redsitributed between the NGC and the property in question. The NGC has a mandate to only use that money for a specific project, one which I cannot remember now. I was trying to download the statute from the NGC website but, for soe reason here in Korea, none of those pages will open.
The tricky bit here is to understand the definition of 'abandoned' and what each casino considers the abandonement of said instruments.

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tringlomane

This is Missouri:
RS Mo. 313.832.
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2. All moneys, coin, and currency found in close proximity of wagers, or of records of wagers are presumed forfeited. The burden of proof is upon the claimant of the property to rebut this presumption.
3. Subsections 1 and 2 of this section do not apply if the act or omission which would give rise to the forfeiture was committed or omitted without the owner's knowledge or consent.
If you are scatterbrained enough to leave money in a machine, does that mean you did it without knowledge?? lol
But it looks like it is forfeited to the casino if the rightful owner isn't found.

AxiomOfChoice

It doesn't matter what the casino considers the abandonment of said instruments, nor does the NGC's opinion make a difference. It only matters what the law says.
You should listen to the link that I provided. Bob N. explains it very clearly.

Tomspur

I think you and I have had a round and round on this subject before with similar results.
I will listen to the link tonight when I get home, thanks for posting. If a person finds money on a casino floor without

If a person finds money on a casino floor without

“There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.” - Winston Churchill

Tomspur

Just as a mattr of interest, isn't the NGC the state agency who writes and upholds the gaming laws for the state? Does that not mean directly that the NGC has a say?
I don't know much about where laws come from. I may be completely wrong.

“There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.” - Winston Churchill

AxiomOfChoice

I think you and I have had a round and round on this subject before with similar results.
I will listen to the link tonight when I get home, thanks for posting.

I've never talked abo

If A Person Finds Money On A Casino Floor